1 Piece vs 2 Piece Fishing Rods: Which is Better For You?

If you’re new to fishing you might wonder about the differences between a 1 piece vs 2 piece fishing rod including which is better, and why. The answer isn’t that complicated.

One piece fishing rods are superior to two piece fishing rods in all regards except mobility. One piece fishing rods are more sensitive, durable, and less likely to have issues while fighting fish. The best rod manufacturers also tend to exclusively manufacture one piece fishing rods. IF they offer a two piece variety, the selection is very limited. The only reason you’d buy a dedicated two piece fishing rod is if you had little room for them in your car or boat and needed a rod that can store easier.

1 piece fishing rods are better vs. 2 piece fishing rods
All of these fishing rods are 1 piece, and for good reason.

The Few Main Advantages of 2 Piece Fishing Rods

While I feel you you should really spend your money on a 1 piece fishing rod vs. a 2 piece rod, there are some advantages of a 2 piece fishing rod. The advantages of a two piece fishing rod basically boil down to ease of storage, reparability, and price.

  • Storage & Transportation. A two piece rod breaks into two short pieces. This means it’ll fit into the trunk of your ol’ Hyundai Elantra with the missing headlight with ease. You don’t need to get creative with how or where to put a two piece rod as they’ll fit pretty much anywhere. This could make them ideal for someone who lives in an apartment or has a small car.
  • Reparability. If you break a one piece fishing rod and your manufacturer won’t replace it under warranty, the repair is probably going to change the rod for the worse. Often, if the tip is damaged the only way to repair it is with a replacement tip that shortens the rod, changes its action, and decreases its sensitivity. With a two piece fishing rod, just get a replacement part for the part you broke, and you’re good as new. Some manufacturers will even mail you this.
  • Price. This isn’t really an apples to apples advantage of a 2 piece fishing rod vs. a 1 piece rod, but two piece rods tend to be less expensive. Unfortunately, the reason for this is that they tend to be of lesser quality too. So, while “yes,” your 2 piece rod will be less expensive than the typical 1 piece, it will also be “worse.” Still, with inflation doing its thing lately, price can matter in a big way.

More Obscure Advantages of 2 Piece Fishing Rods vs. 1 Piece Fishing Rods

While storage and price are the two main advantages of a two piece fishing rod, there are a few more obscure perks you may not have thought of.

  • 2 Piece fishing rods make it easier to spool line. The main reason I keep a 2 piece fishing rod around is to help me spool line on reels. While I suppose you could go and buy a dedicated line spooler, it’s easier, in my opinion, to just toss the reel onto a two piece fishing rod, take off the top, and go to town.
  • If you hate buying things on the internet, you might have more options. Most of the big box stores like Wal-Mart and Dick’s Sporting Goods are going to have more 2 piece fishing rods vs. 1 piece fishing rods for sale. You might have an easier time finding that particular power or action you’re looking for on any given day. On the other hand, much as with price, while there are “more” rods that doesn’t mean the surplus is any good!

The Critical Disadvantages of 2 Piece Rods

Although 2 piece fishing rods have some advantages like storage and price, their disadvantages are overpowering. Here are some of the critical disadvantages of a two piece fishing rod:

  • Less durability. Because you’re adding a connection point between the two halves of the rod, you’re creating a weak point that can break. Couple this with the fact that most (though not all) two piece fishing rods are of lesser quality than their one piece counterparts, and you can have a rod that’s more likely to break, even if it can be easier to fix when it does.
  • Decreased sensitivity. Because the blank is not one unified structure, a 2 piece fishing rod is generally going to be less sensitive than similar 1 piece rods. Granted, there are plenty of techniques out there where this doesn’t matter (basically everything to do with power fishing), but for some, like jigs, it can make a big difference.
  • More things to go wrong. A two piece fishing rod comes apart into two pieces. This seems obvious enough. The problem is the act of taking the fishing rod apart and putting it back together creates wear and tear. Over time, this joint can crack and break. There’s also the possibility that you don’t connect the two parts (called “ferrules”) together fully, which could cause them to come apart while you’re fighting a fish. Finally, if you don’t line them up perfectly, it can impact casting distance or contribute to line twist and other issues.
  • A lack of high-quality options. While there *may* be an argument that there are “more” 2 piece rods than 1 piece rods out there, there aren’t more that are of a high quality. Most of the top tier manufacturers do not offer a 2 piece option throughout their entire lineup. While you can find a few, you’re going to have a much better chance of finding the type of elite rod you want in a 1 piece vs. a 2 piece fishing rod setup.

Advantages of 1 Piece Rods

There are enough advantages to a 1 piece fishing rod over a 2 piece rod that to me, it’s a no brainer to buy them so long as you have the space. Here are some of the more important ones.

  • More sensitive. While it’s not strictly necessary for every type of fishing, one piece rods are more sensitive than two piece fishing rods. This is because the blank is one unified shape and not broken into two pieces. This makes it easier to feel vibrations, taps, and bites. Having said that, you’re only going to notice or need this in certain situations (example, fishing jigs or such).
  • Durable. One piece fishing rods tend to be more durable than their two piece counterparts. The same system that allows vibrations and taps to be felt evenly throughout the rod allows stress to distribute evenly across it too. This makes it less likely to snap, even if when it does, it’s more of a problem.
  • Less things to go wrong. With a one piece rod, you don’t have to worry if you’ve put it together all the way or aligned it perfectly, so there’s less chance of things going wrong, like the rod falling apart while you’re fighting a fish.
  • Less tangles between rods. While a minor concern, placing a number of broken down 2 piece rods near each other in a rod box is a great way to tangle them. You’re less likely to tangle single piece rods though it also isn’t impossible. Also, fishing rod sleeves require a rod to be built – you can’t use them on a broken down 2 piece rod.
  • Wider range of high-quality options. There are more high-end fishing rods offered in 1 piece than 2 piece. If you’re after a particular brand and model, 1 piece is probably your best bet.
  • Better resale value. Most of the guys who are going to buy a high-end rod, new or used, are going to be looking for that sensitivity that only a 1 piece fishing rod brings. Thus, they tend to be easier to sell and will have higher resale value. Of note, I wrote an article once about how to buy used fishing rods with confidence that you might enjoy.

The Few Disadvantages of 1 Piece Rods

Even though I feel 1 piece fishing rods are superior vs 2 piece rods in most ways, they do have a few disadvantages.

  • Damage can be catastrophic. While damaging a two piece fishing rod means you’re replacing the half you broke, if you damage a one piece rod, you’re replacing the whole thing. Even if you only damage something like the tip, repairing it can mean shortening the rod and changing its action, or decreasing its sensitivity. Further, I have had a one piece rod snap on me right in the middle once and there is no salvaging that. If you break a one piece rod, that’s usually it, so get one with a good warranty.
  • Take more space. One piece rods take up more space in your boat or car than a two piece fishing rod would. Further, the trend seems to be to make fishing rods longer and longer still, so this could become an issue for more anglers. If you have a small car or rely on public transportation, one piece fishing rods can be problematic. Further, if you have limited space where you live, it can get dicey, though there are several good storage options that can keep rods out of the way. Here’s an interesting way to hang rods from your garage ceiling (or living room, if your wife will let you)!
  • Generally more expensive. 1 piece fishing rods tend to be more expensive vs. 2 piece fishing rods, but this is because they tend to be of a higher quality too. This means this disadvantage isn’t really “apples to apples.” In the rare instances where you can find a high-quality 2 piece, it too will command a hefty price.

When Should an Angler Buy a 2 Piece Fishing Rod

I know I’m talking a bit of smack about 2 piece fishing rods in this article, but I promise you, they catch fish. For some of you, a 2 piece fishing rod is probably even ideal vs. a 1 piece.

2 piece fishing rods are just fine for people who don’t take fishing that seriously, don’t go that often, and/or don’t have that much space. If you live in a city and have a small car or rely on public transportation, they are clearly your better option. Likewise, if you’re just starting out, or raising kids who are, a 2 piece fishing rod is going to be much less expensive and will meet your needs just fine.

You’re also good to go with a 2 piece rod if you’re fishing something like spinnerbaits or topwater lures that don’t leave any doubt when a fish hits. “Sensitivity” is only important for techniques like jigs and soft plastics where it can be hard to tell if a fish is biting, or if you’ve just hit a rock. If your budget is a concern, you might load up on 2 piece fishing rods for your power fishing applications that don’t require the sensitivity.

Which Type of Angler Should Buy a 1 Piece Fishing Rod

Frankly, I think everyone that has the space for them should buy one piece rods. While I suppose the argument can be made that your average weekend warrior isn’t going to “need” them, they’re just a pleasure to fish with and true heirlooms you can pass down. They also have significantly better resale value and often better warranties if something does go wrong.

Competitive anglers especially would do well with 1 piece fishing rods vs. a 2 piece. If money is on the line, you want to have the advantages that the one piece offers over the two piece rod. While I commonly coach that not all techniques out there (e.g. spinnerbaits) “require” a sensitive rod, the fact is, there are techniques that do. Why give up that sensitivity if you don’t have to?

Finally, anyone who wants a “high end” rod is going to want to buy a 1 piece fishing rod simply because there aren’t many “high end” 2 piece rods out there. If you enjoy the sport and want to “treat yo self,” 1 piece rods are where it’s at.

My Favorite 1 Piece Fishing Rods

My favorite fishing rods are all 1 piece vs. 2. I only own the 2 piece rods that I inherited from dad growing up. Most of them are Ugly Stiks and they’ll do the trick. However, when I put my own hard-earned money to the task, I’m grabbing a 1 piece fishing rod, and it’s going to be made by St. Croix.

I know some guys enjoy having different types of rods by different manufacturers so they can mix and match. I prefer to purchase all of mine from the same. The reason is that the power and action rating of fishing rods is not standardized. What one company calls a “medium heavy” another might consider “medium” and so on. By sticking with one manufacturer, you avoid the issue of accidentally buying something inadequate for your needs.

I did an in-depth review of St. Croix rods in this article about the best fishing rods out there. If you haven’t tried the brand, take a look at it as I review several of their models.

Are There Any High End 2 Piece Fishing Rods?

While you’re going to be very limited in what “high end” 2 piece fishing rods you can find, there are a few manufacturers who make a few of them. Even my favorite brand, St. Croix Rods, has a spattering of 2 piece rods for sale. Most of them are in their lower-level offerings like their Triumph line, but even this is a high quality product compared to most 2 piece rods on the market. However, if you’re really willing to break the bank, you can also find 2 piece fishing rods in St. Croix’s vaunted Legend Elite lineup. The only question is why on earth would you?

Conclusions

While I hope this article was helpful, I also hope it didn’t bum you out too bad if you only have two piece fishing rods, or if they’re all you can afford. While a 2 piece fishing rod does have significant disadvantages vs. a 1 piece offering, I will promise you something: the fish don’t care. As long as you’re out there on or near the water having fun and catching fish, it doesn’t matter. Frankly, if you’re the target audience of this blog, you’re just starting out fishing with your kids. They’re going to smile regardless of what rod catches what fish, so enjoy!

Thanks for reading,

John Paxton

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What Type of Fishing Pole Do You Need?

If you’re new to the sport, one of the first questions you might ask is “what type of fishing pole do I need?” While I’ll go into more detail as to why, I’ll cut right to the chase: Beginners should buy a 7′ medium-heavy power, fast action spinning rod as your first fishing pole.  This is a versatile set up that allows you to fish fast or slow in a variety of cover and situations and is the all around best fishing pole for a beginner.

Let’s break down why a 7′ medium-heavy power, fast action spinning rod is the best fishing pole for beginners.

Note: while the correct term is technically “fishing rod” many beginners are going to call it a “pole.” As this website is designed to help newcomers, I will use the term interchangeably.

Why a 7′ Fishing Pole is What Beginners Need

While you can get a fishing pole that is longer or shorter than 7′, I find the 7′ length to be the sweet spot that allows you to do anything with it.  For example, I prefer slightly shorter rods for techniques like jerkbaits and slightly longer ones for frogging or jigs.  7′ is an acceptable medium between all of these.

7′ is also the perfect rod length for spinnerbaits and plastic worms, which are outstanding beginner fishing lures.  Since these are two of the lures you should plan on using when you’re first starting out, it stands to reason that the best beginner fishing pole would be one that can use them well!

7′ fishing poles will also fit in most rod lockers on boats, if you have one.  It was only fairly recently that manufacturers started making larger rod lockers so if you have an older boat (or might be in the market for one eventually), that’s an added plus of this length.

Given all this, a 7′ fishing pole is clearly the type you need as a beginner.

Why I Suggest Spinning Rods

If you’re a beginner purchasing your first fishing pole, I highly suggest that it be a spinning rod rather than a casting rod.  While you’re probably going to notice that the professionals have far more baitcasters in their rod boxes than spinning gear, remember, they’re pros.  Baitcasters vs. Spinning rods are very much akin to a manual transmission vs. Automatic transmission car.  Whlie anyone could learn either first, it’s just easier if you can concentrate on driving / fishing rather than worrying about shifting or keeping a baitcaster under control.

A spinning rod, in my opinion, is also more versatile than a baitcaster, even if it isn’t as good as a baitcaster in several situations.  A big enough spinning rod can throw any kind of lure.  Anyone who claims you can’t throw a frog or jig on one is incorrect.  True, it will be more difficult, especially in heavy cover, but it isn’t impossible.

On the other hand, try throwing a tiny lure any distance on a baitcaster.  While I suppose it too isn’t “impossible” it’s so much more difficult.  Buying a spinning gear is going to make techniques like tiny drop shots accessible to you, which is important when you’re starting out.

Why Medium-Heavy Power Fast Action Rods Are Perfect for Beginners

While you might think a “medium” rod is the middle ground with fishing poles, that’s not really true.  For most manufacturers, a medium power fishing rod is actually pretty light.  The true middle ground is really a medium-heay rod.  This is the beast that’s going to let you fish anything you want, with reasonable success.

While most medium-heavy power fishing rods are designed primarily for spinnerbaits and plastic worms, they’re also heavy enough to fish frogs through heavy cover and light enough to toss a crankbait with some success (you might just want to loosen the drag a little).  If you could have only ONE fishing pole, a medium-heavy power rod will give you the most options.

As for action, it’s simply how extensive the tip bends.  Again, a fast action is a good all-around option that will allow you to fish many lures successfully.

What are Some Good Fishing Lures for a Medium-Heavy Power, Fast Action Rod?

While a medium-heavy power, fast action rod can throw pretty much anything successfully, they’re really designed for spinnerbaits and soft plastic worms.  Point in fact, on several rods, they specifically state this right on the label. 

If you’re using spinnerbaits on a medium-heavy power, fast action rod, I’d recommned going with lures in the 1/2 oz size.  While doable, 3/8 oz won’t cast as far or as well.  If you prefer the more compact size of the 3/8 oz spinnerbaits, several brands such as War Eagle make a version of their spinnerbaits that weigh 1/2 oz but have a small and compact size.

As for soft plastic worms, you really can use whatever type you like.  I have one medium-heavy power, fast action rod that is dedicated to wacky-rigged Senkos, with another rigged up for Texas Rigs when I need something a little more weedless.  Both work great on this type of rod.

Which 7′ Medium-Heavy Power, Fast Action Spinning Rod Should a Beginner Buy?

If you’re a complete beginner and are uncertain if you’re going to like this sport, I would suggest getting an inexpensive fishing rod.  That doesn’t mean you should get a cheap fishing rod, however.  Luckily, Ugly Stik has a 7′ medium-heavy fast action spinning rod in their GX2 series that is perfect for someone starting out. Really, its the only type of fishing pole you need to get into this sport.

True, it’s not as flashy as a nice St. Croix (which I’d definitely treat yourself to once you get the hang of things), but it is durable, effective, and efficient.  I recommend folks stock up on Ugly Stiks early in life. They tend to be the sort of rods that sticks with them all through life and get handed down to the kids one day.  We still have some Ugly Stiks in our arsenal that have been going strong for close to thirty years now. 

While they aren’t the most sensitive rods, you really don’t need that with many techniques (for example, there’s absolutely no doubt when a fish slams a spinnerbait or topwater lure, and even most takes on a worm are quite discernable).  What you do need is a rod you can count on not to break when a monster hits, and Ugly Stiks are renowned for their durability. 

I understand that if you stick with the sport, you’re evenutally going to upgrade. All the same, an Ugly Stik GX2 is not a purchase you’re going to regret.  We’ve all been there where we’ve bought something inexpensive and then thought to ourselves, “man, now I have to buy something twice!”

an ugly stik is a great type of fishing pole for beginners.
An Ugly Stik will never let you down.

What Are Some Other Good Types of Fishing Poles?

While I do maintain that an Ugly Stik is a great type of fishing pole for a beginner, if you want something a little higher end, I am a big believer in the St. Croix lineup.  I’ve more or less been buying nothing but Ugly Stiks and St. Croix (with a few Browning Silaflexs thrown in) for the past 10 years.  I have an article that goes into the different St. Croixs that you could buy here, but their baseline Triumph line is a very affordable entry into their world.  Here is an article I wrote reviewing the St. Croix Triumph series in detail.

Conclusions

If you ever ask yourself “what type of fishing pole do I need?” the answer is simple. A 7′ medium-heavy power, fast action spinning rod is the pole you should buy if you’re a beginner.  It’s versatile and will let you fish a wide variety of lures.  Further, it’s also relatively fool-proof being a spinning rod.  It’s the sort of rod you can count on using throughout your life and you can fish fast (spinnerbaits) or slow (worms) while also skimming lures across the surface (frogs) or reaching the depths (dropshots).  There’s really no downside to this being your first fishing rod.  I hope you enjoy!

Thanks,

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St. Croix Premier Spinning and Casting Rods Review

Those familiar with my blog know that I love St. Croix rods, so much so that I’m now investing some time to go through and review the entire lineup (or, at least the models I own). If you’ve been thinking about buying a St. Croix Premier Spinning or Casting rod, keep on reading. I’ll tell you why I think they’re one of the most versatile tools in your rod box.

Is the St. Croix Premier a Good Fishing Rod?

The St. Croix Premier lineup is what I’d consider their “entry level American-made” offering. There are certainly rods (such as the Triumph and Mojo series) that are more “entry level” but these are manufactured elsewhere. These rods feature SCII graphite, which is solid but comparable to what the lower-end St. Croix’s have, and then feature some additions such as upgraded reel seats and line guides.

I probably should have been up front by saying that no St. Croix is truly an “entry level” rod. It’s basically like calling the base model Cadillac an “entry level” vehicle. So, any St. Croix you purchase is going to be a good one.

The Premier lineup have cork handles and dark rod blanks which I find aesthetically pleasing as I’m not really one for flashy rods. They hold up well and as we’ll see have a decent warranty.

All in all, the St. Croix Premier rods are keepers. The main reason being its versatility. Let’s take a moment to discuss that in detail:

Versatility

I am convinced that there is no rod model more versatile than the St. Croix Premier. Its versatility comes primarily from its wide ranger of models. The St. Croix Premier has more available models than any other in St. Croix’s lineup. As of writing, their website claims 38 spinning models and 30 casting models.

It would create a needless wall of text to list every type offered, but I did want to touch on a few specific models to showcase just how versatile this rod lineup truly is.

St. Croix Premier Spinning Rods of Note

The following four rods give you a pretty good idea of just what you can accomplish with the St. Croix Premier spinning rod lineup.

Perfect Panfish Rods

The smallest spinning rod offered by St. Croix in their Premier line is a 4’6″ Ultra Light Power, Moderate Action noodle that would make an exceptional panfish rod as well as a great Christmas gift for any young anglers in your life. Personally, I’d go with the 5′ model as you’ll get a few more years out of it.

In all fairness, however, if you’re buying a fishing rod for a small child and they haven’t yet shown an aptitude for and love of fishing, don’t pony up the cash for one of the St. Croix’s. Read my article on the much more affordable Ugly Stik Elite and buy one of those instead. Alternately, you could read my article on the best fishing rods for kids where I discuss a few other St. Croix models I personally prefer for children over the Premier.

My Son’s First Spinnerbait Rod

Shortly before the pandemic hit I had a little money burning a hole in my pocket and took my son off to the local tackle shop to see what we might find. He was four years old at the time, but as those of you who follow this blog have seen, he’s a good angler.

We picked up a 6′ Medium Power, Fast Action St. Croix Premier spinning rod. This is small enough for him to handle well, but long and stout enough to toss spinnerbaits. While most will tell you that you really want a Medium-Heavy power for a spinnerbait rod, St. Croix rods run a little on the heavy side with their power, and a medium does just fine for throwing 3/8 ounce spinnerbaits and other lures.

My son loves this rod and we’d certainly recommend it. It is lightweight but high quality and the perfect size for those children who are still small. He’s managed to catch some decent bass on it so far, and I can’t wait to get him up to Lake Champlain for a pickerel or pike. You can pick up your own right at this link with confidence. Go ahead and pick one up and then leave a comment about how much you love it!

The All-Arounder

If you want to treat yourself to an American-made fishing rod that is of high-quality, but not ridiculously expensive, it would be hard to beat the St. Croix Premier Medium-Heavy Power, Fast Action rod in either spinning or casting models.

This is a good all-around option that will allow you to throw most lures successfully. It’s great for (really, designed for) spinnerbaits and plastic worms and could be used with jigs well enough. While a little too powerful for my liking, it can handle crankbaits and top water lures fairly well too.

A Spinning Rod that Can Handle Frogs

The reason I bought my first St. Croix Premier spinning rod was because I wanted a spinning rod that could be used effectively for throwing frogs. As any frog fisherman will tell you, this technique requires specialized equipment that isn’t that easy to find in a spinning rod setup (at least not with bass tackle).

The 7′ St. Croix Premier Heavy Power, Fast Action rod is what I purchased for my wife and other guests to use when I take them frog fishing. If they aren’t comfortable with baitcasters and prefer a spinning rod, this gives them enough power to drag largemouth bass out of a pile of slop. You will need to pair it with a reel that can handle heavy braid, but the rod itself will not let you down.

It’s very challenging to find a non-Musky, freshwater spinning rod that can handle these lures, and the fact that St. Croix offers one is a testament to the versatility of the St. Croix Premier lineup.

As an aside, this same rod does a great job as a catfish rod or for tossing out any type of heavy lure or sinker. You can pick one up here though this link is for a two-piece rod. This is an added plus if you’re just starting out and fishing from the back of your car, and if you’re throwing frogs, any slight reduction in sensitivity a two-piece offers will be negligible.

The St. Croix premier features heavy power spinning rod models - fairly unique amongst bass fishing gear.
I purchased this rod primarily as a spinning rod option for frogs, but it also handles large swimbaits very well.

Where are St. Croix Premier Rods Made?

As mentioned above, you will be happy to note that the St. Croix Premier lineup is designed and handcrafted in Park Falls, Wisconsin. Thus, purchasing one of these rods means supporting an American business and American workers which is all the more important during these trying times. Consider heading over to Amazon and buying one now.

Do St. Croix Premier Rods Come With A Warranty?

The St. Croix Premier lineup comes with a five year warranty backed by St. Croix Superstar Service. You can read all about the company’s great warranty at their website.

I would like to share a little personal experience regarding the warranty that St. Croix Rods offers. While I’ve generally found their products to be free of defects, years ago I did purchase a road that had a significant chip in one of the line guides, which was fraying my line and causing me to lose some lures.

I was worried because it’s the kind of issue that a company could easily say I created, however I got absolutely no pushback from the company. I followed their warranty program and had my rod repaired and returned to me quickly.

In all honesty, it was probably the sort of issue I could have fixed myself with some epoxy, but it was early on to my buying days with the company, and I wanted give them a chance to fix things and make things right. I was so impressed by the quick turnaround and lack of any pushback that it made me a lifelong customer and advocate.

What Reels Pair Well With a St. Croix Premier?

I’m a huge fan of pairing Pflueger reels with my St. Croix rods and have written a large article all about why here. I match my St. Croix Premiers with a Pflueger President spinning reel in various sizes and recommend that you do as well. They pair up and balance well and can handle most anything you throw at them.

Conclusions

The St. Croix Premier lineup is an American-made, versatile rod lineup that has a model for anything and everything you’d ever dream of. It is less expensive than some of the company’s flagship offerings, but at a higher price point than their true entry level models, which sets it up as somewhat “middle of the road” and therefore a good balance between performance and price.

I’d recommend this line to anyone who wants to start building a high-quality rod box with classic, subdued colors and looks.

Remember, if the price of a new model is too much for you, I have an entire article about how to buy used rods with confidence that can help you pick a few of these up on eBay with piece of mind.

I hope this article was helpful. If it was, you might consider purchasing my book, Fishing with Kids: A Parent’s Guide, as it is filled with other tips to help you enjoy this great sport.

Have a great day for fishing,

John Paxton

What’s the Difference Between a Fishing Pole and Fishing Rod?

If you’ve spent much time around anglers, chances are you’ve heard them talk about their fishing rods and fishing poles. You might have even wondered if there is a difference between the terms, or if it is simply a “soda vs. pop” sort of thing.

To put it simply, what most people in North America refer to as “fishing poles” are, in fact, fishing rods. Anything that has line guides, a reel seat, and a reel attached to it is a fishing rod and is meant for casting lures. Fishing poles, on the other hand, simply have line attached to their tip. They are meant for placing bait quietly and precisely.

Frankly, it’s a petty thing to worry about so if you’ve grown up your whole life calling rods poles, go right ahead and keep it up. Only a fishing snob would correct you!

Why the Confusion?

Part of the reason people mistake these terms is simply that their fathers and grandfathers before them used the term “fishing pole,” so that’s what people grew up knowing.

At one point in the past, a line attached to a stick was the main tool anglers had to catch fish. Modern fishing reels have only been around a few hundred years and accessible to the masses for even less. Those who couldn’t afford these fancy contraptions had no need for a fishing rod, and caught their fish with handline or by attaching some line to the end of a stick – the fishing pole.

This isn’t exactly a life or death error so there’s been no need for correction, so the mistake has carried on for generations.

The issue is compounded, interestingly, by SEO enthusiasts. You see, those of us writing these posts on the internet generally want someone to read them, so we try to write for terms we think people will search for to enable them to encounter our websites. With the term “fishing pole” being so common in the United States, you’ll find many bloggers use it for this reason. To be fair, I have too on occasion. No harm, no foul as it helps us get information to you, but it certainly contributes to the confusion.

Fishing with Rods

I have no hard data to back this up aside from my 30 years on the water, but I will tell you point blank, very few anglers in North America use fishing poles. Almost everyone uses a fishing rod.

Fishing rods cast lures through the air. Hopefully towards water, but often towards trees. Let’s face it: always towards trees when children are involved. In any event, they’re meant to cast a lure towards distance targets, at which point the lure is retrieved through the water column, hopefully drawing a strike.

Advantages to Using Fishing Rods

Using a conventional rod and reel set up has many advantages over less viable fishing poles. These include:

  • Increased casting distance.
  • A wider range of available presentations.
  • An ability to cover water quickly in search of fish.

Increased Casting Distance

If your reel is properly set up, and your lure is of an appropriate weight for the rod, you can get incredible casting distance with by using fishing rods. With time, you can also increase your accuracy, especially when you’re casting short distances with techniques such as “flipping and pitching,” though you’ll never be as accurate as using a pole to simply plunk some bait right where you want it.

Because you are flinging a lure through the air, its momentum carries it a great distance. If you are throwing with the wind, this distance can increase even more.

How to Maximize Your Casting Distance

If you’re using a rod to be able to cast out far, you might as well learn how to cast it as far as possible. Here are some tips for how you can increase it:

Proper Lure Weight

You always want to match the weight of your lure to your rod’s power. Most manufacturers will print this information right on the rod blank. For example, my son’s Ugly Stik Elite is an ultralight model. It is rated for lures that weigh between 1/32 and 1/4 oz. A lure lighter or heavier than this wouldn’t cast as far as one that was within scope.

Consider Your Fishing Line

The thicker the diameter of your fishing line, generally the less distance that your rod will cast. This is due to friction on the reel. Thinner lines will tend to cast a lot farther (and also get your bait deeper) for this reason. With that said, there’s a balance to everything, because some baitcasters are hard to use with very thin lines and need a minimum diameter to function easily.

Longer Fishing Rods Cast Further

Generally speaking, the longer the rod, the further the cast. There are limits to this of course – you need to have room to wield the larger rods. They won’t do you much good if you’re fishing from a tree-lined bank or in your kayak. There, you’ll want a shorter rod so you can get appropriate leverage and backswing to launch your lures.

Greater Variety of Presentations

I had a spirited rant in another article about “The Bait Monkey,” which is this evil doer who causes… nay, forces fishermen to part with their paychecks for the widest arrange of lures known to man.

While I’m sure this dastardly monkey also visits Europe and other lands that favor fishing poles instead of rods, I can’t imagine it is so sinister there simply because your presentation options are more limited if your exclusively using vertical presentations.

With a fishing rod, you’re able to work the entire water column. You can explore the depths by bouncing jigs along the bottom, the middle of the lake with crankbaits that dive to various depths, and the topwater with poppers and buzzbaits. Rods can toss anything the fish want, at any given time.

You Can Cover More Water

This same versatility of presentations is one of the reasons you can cover more water with a fishing rod than a fishing pole. Because you’re casting and retrieving lures, you get to search for fish everywhere between you and as far as you can cast. You can cast to multiple angles quickly, targeting a different one each time until you have thoroughly probed the entire area.

It’s also easier to walk around with rods if you’re fishing on foot. Modern fishing poles can be as large as 60′! Even though many are telescopic (think of how a telescope compacts), many aren’t! Imagine having to construct one of these at each site you want to fish. Just watch the first 30 seconds of this video and tell me that you could do that all day.

Disadvantages to Fishing Rods

While most people in North America use them, there are a few disadvantages to fishing rods. For starters, they are generally a less accurate way to present bait or lures than fishing poles. Secondly, they have more equipment and parts, which means there are more things to go wrong, and more widgets (such as reels) to upkeep. Finally they can be more expensive, all things considered. While I’m sure you could find an example of an expensive fishing pole, it doesn’t have a reel and you won’t be as susceptible to the Bait Monkey.

Fishing with Poles

I have to be honest, being from North America, I thought fishing poles were something that Huckleberry Finn would have used. Sure, I’ve seen a few crappie fishermen in Florida use them, but I just didn’t think it was popular equipment in this day in age. Apparently, I’d be completely wrong over in Europe or Asia as I’ll describe a bit further below. First, let’s look at a few advantages and disadvantages to using fishing poles instead of rods.

Advantages

The main advantage fishing poles have over rods is that they can present a lure or bait in a much more precise manner and in a stealthy fasion.

Precision

To use a fishing pole, one simply guides it out over the precise part of water they wish to cover, and then lowers their bait or lure down. This allows extreme precision as one can easily move past any reed or obstruction and get their bait exactly where they want it.

This could have far-reaching implications even in bass fishing. For example, consider attempting to present a Senko in a very precise pocket in a nasty weed bed. Even if you were able to flip or pitch to it accurately, you’d still need to reel it in past the weeds to get it out. While I’m not exactly certain how well a fishing pole would work to horse a bass out of that sort of cover, it would at least allow you to make an entirely vertical presentation without fouling your lure.

Stealth

Some folks who fish professionally can make a perfect cast every time that enters the water with minimal splash. Then, there is the rest of us. A fishing pole eliminates the giant splash of a lure as you simply move it out over water and then ease it in. This is a stealthier approach if the fish are spooky, at least if the pole itself doesn’t frighten them. Given that these aren’t that popular in much of North America, it might be the first time a fish has ever seen it, and they may think it’s just a stick.

Disadvantages

There are several disadvantages to fishing with a pole rather than a rod. Many were covered in the rods section (such as a fishing pole’s comparative lack of maneuverability), but there are a few more to consider.

Unwieldy

I suppose this goes hand in hand with lack of maneuverability, but the longer fishing poles out there can be difficult to wield. Many techniques, especially in Europe, appear to be best-suited for those sitting down as you need to brace an especially long pole against something to control it. There are other techniques, such as Tenkara fishing discussed below that alleviate this, but it’s something to consider depending on how you plan to fish.

Availability

I work five minutes from my local Cabelas and before COVID-19, I was there most lunch breaks. I cannot recall ever seeing a true fishing pole. Likewise, I’ve never seen one in the tackle shops I frequent. The bottom line is that depending on where you live, you might have a hard time finding one of these! This isn’t a problem if you aren’t pressed for time, but if you break your only pole and want to get back to fishing, you could be waiting awhile.

European Roach Fishing

There is a species of fish called a “roach” in Europe that anglers use enormous fishing poles to reach. If you go search the internet, you can find plenty of videos showing the tactic, such as this one here.

I’ve never tried this, but it looks as though the anglers make use of these enormous fishing poles to first deliver a ball of chum or attractant over to an area, and then to dangle a baited hook over it to catch a fish in the ensuing frenzy.

Having watched a few of these videos, I might take back the “fishing rods are more expensive” argument I made a few sections higher. Some of these folks bring entire modular towers with them that they plant into the lake or stream to allow themselves to reach even farther.

Japanese Tenkara Fishing

Tankara Fishing is a new term to me, but apparently it has been around for a few hundred years in Japan. Essentially, it is fly fishing in a stream but without a reel. You just have the fishing pole, line, hook, and bait. You still swing the fly back and forth through the air to give it some momentum before casting it, but the amount of line attached to the end of your line is all you get.

I have to say, I’m a bit intrigued by this. I think it might be a decent technique for children, as it isn’t that complicated and the poles aren’t too long or heavy, at least compared to the roach poles in Europe. Who knows, if I try this out with my son, maybe it’ll someday make its way into my book’s sequel.

While researching this article, I learned that this technique was brought to North American in 2009 by a company called Tenkara USA. They have a website that discusses how to get started with the technique, and also offer started packs with everything you need to catch a fish besides the stream.

If you’re into minimalist fishing (and with kids, that might be a good thing) then you might want to give this technique a shot.

Conclusion: It’s Mostly Semantics

While there’s always going to be “that guy” who gets uppity if you call a fishing rod a fishing pole, let’s face it — it’s semantics, and a trifling one at that. Call it what you want, the bottom line is they both catch fish.

The only time I’d be concerned about the difference is if I was booking a charter in another country. You’ll want to know what kind of equipment your guide is using so you can tell what sort of experience you’re about to have. While I could go for some Tenkara fishing, I’m not sure I could deal with sitting in one spot waiting for a roach to bite.

I hope this article helped quell your insatiable thirst for information on this exceptionally important topic. If you have other pressing questions, poke around my site a bit as you’ll learn wondrous lessons such as if you can fish with dead worms, or use WD-40 as fishing attractant. Armed with this trifecta of knowledge, you will crush all fish before you!

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Ugly Stik Elite: A Great Fishing Pole for Kids

I’m often asked what makes a good fishing pole for beginners and kids, so much so that I wrote an entire article on the subject. Even so, I thought it might be good to explore one of the poles I talked about in detail: the Ugly Stik Elite.

Why I Love These Fishing Poles

I caught my first northern pike on an Ugly Stik my dad handed me some thirty years ago. That catch was a moment that ensured fishing would be a huge part of my life, and these fishing poles were with me every step of the way. Over the years, I’ve caught everything from tiny panfish to huge bass and enormous channel catfish on Ugly Stiks I borrowed from my dad. They served me so well as a child that when I became a father, I knew they had to have a prominent place in my rod box.

I now own half a dozen Ugly Stik Elites, all in the smaller lengths (4’6″ to 5’6″) that I use to fish with my children. These balance very well for them, especially when paired with a 20-size spinning reel (I favor the Pflueger President, personally).

These are the perfect fishing poles for beginners and small kids, but are also fine for anyone who wants to enjoy fishing without spending a lot of money.

Inexpensive Quality

I’m not going to list a price as they’ll change from time to time, but it is fair to say that this is not an expensive of a fishing rod. They cost a fraction of what my other rods did, even when I bought those other rods used. That might put you off and make you think that they aren’t quality, but that isn’t true. After all, how many rods can you honestly say would hold up to 30+ years of fishing, much of it by kids? To me, that is the mark of a quality product.

Why I Purchased These for My Children

These fishing poles are great for kids because they’re so durable. Little anglers get very excited when a fish is on the line and they don’t always listen well. They can put rods through a lot of stress by failing to appropriately position them, or by holding them on the blank for leverage. You can trust that this rod won’t break.

Even their ultralight models are fairly sturdy. I was surprised by this, as some of the other Ugly Stiks I’ve used throughout the years have been fairly “whippy,” but the Elite model is strong all the way to that power (at least in the 4’6″ model).

While sturdy, their ultralight models still give plenty of play. Even panfish will be fun to catch, which is important. As a parent, you’re going to spend a LOT of time targeting these species, so you’d better have a rod that’s fun to fish with.

A 4'6" Ugly Stik Elite balances well with a size 20 Pflueger President spinning reel.
The Ugly Stik Elite in a 4’6″ size pairs very well
with a Pflueger President in size 20. This is one
of my main combos for my kids.

Range of Models

The Ugly Stik Elite is offered in spinning and casting models and has a wide range of lengths, power, and action.

The smallest spinning rod is their 4’6″ ultralight model. Their largest is a 7’6″ medium power model. They also have a 7′ medium heavy if you wanted something to throw spinnerbaits or Senkos.

Casting models are, as expected, usually more on the heavy side as you tend to need beefier tackle with baitcasting presentations. Six models are offered. The shortest is 6’6″ and the longest is 7′. Most are either medium or medium heavy power, though they do offer on in ultralight, curiously. Light lures are pretty hard to use on a baitcaster, so I’d suggest you pick up a spinning model instead.

Are There Any Fish You Can’t Catch with These Poles?

You’d have to go out of your way to find a freshwater fish in North America that you couldn’t catch with an Ugly Stik Elite. I suppose some monsters like lake sturgeon or alligator gar might put the rod to the test, but I have to figure your line will snap long before your rod would when fighting one of those. Also, if you’re buying one of these fishing poles for your kids, you probably aren’t targeting these species.

If you did want to pursue one of these larger fish, Shakespeare also offers a catfish model that I’ve used and enjoy. It’s even sturdier and is meant to go head to head with monster blue catfish. It won’t let you down.

Channel catfish caught with Ugly Stiks on Lake Champlain circa 2011.
These channel catfish were caught with Ugly Stiks.

Does Ugly Stik Offer a Warranty?

A limited warranty is offered on these rods that covers manufacturer defects, but you’d have to do something crazy stupid to break them in the first place, and the warranty says in part:

[They are] not responsible for normal wear and tear, nor failures caused by accidents, abuse, alteration, modification, misuse or improper care.

To me, this means that this probably isn’t that useful of a warranty. I suppose you could always get a lemon, and if you do, they’ll replace it for a processing fee of $9.95 US or $10.55 CAD. While prices change from time to time as the rods go on sale, that’s roughly a sixth or so of what you might pay for it new, which is reasonable.

I’d guess the most likely way you break one of these is by accidentally slamming it in a car door or something similar, and that doesn’t appear to be covered.

Don’t let this dissuade you from purchasing one. Again, we have some Ugly Stiks in our family that have been fished for at least 30 years now if not more and they’re still going strong. Even though they’re inexpensive, these rods are made to last.

Closing Thoughts

The Ugly Stik Elite is one of my favorite rods. I own dozens that cost considerably more, yet always bring these along for a fishing trip with my son and daughter. If you’ve decided that fishing is a hobby worth sharing with your kids, buy them one of these rods.

They make a great fishing rod for anyone who needs durability and dependability. I own half a dozen of these that I use to fish with my kids, and can’t recommend them highly enough.

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John Paxton

St. Croix Triumph Spinning and Casting Rods Review

If you’ve been reading my blog for awhile, you’re aware that I really enjoy St. Croix Rods. While I’ve written about them many times in the past, I thought it would be good to write a more detailed review for you. I’m going to start with a review on the St. Croix Triumph Spinning and Casting Rods. I’ll tell you if they’re worth it and what type of techniques I’d use them for.

Is the St. Croix Triumph a Good Fishing Rod?

In my opinion, the St. Croix Triumph is a really good fishing rod for anyone who is passionate about fishing, but doesn’t have hundreds of dollars to spend on a setup. They are St. Croix’s “entry level” model and available at most sporting goods stores (their higher end stuff often isn’t), but don’t let this dissuade you. An entry level St. Croix rod is still a great purchase, and miles above many other manufacturers.

While you aren’t getting the best components the company has to offer, this is still a great rod that is relatively lightweight and sensitive. The SCII graphite blank has held up to everything my son and I have put it up against without fail. I also appreciate how it has a classic look. I know that is cosmetic, but I’m not much for the flashy rods out there. The Triumph series has a very subdued look to it which I appreciate.

If you don’t have a nice rod yet, then this is a great one to start with. If you do have “better” rods, then this can still be a good addition to your arsenal. I own most types of rods that St. Croix makes from the Triump to the Legend Xtreme and I’ll tell you, you don’t need a hypersensitive blank for every technique. You can save yourself a lot of money by being sensible and picking up a few from the Triumph series for your spinnerbaits and other lures that don’t require the same sensitivity.

Versatility

One great thing about this tier of rods is that they are versatile. With six types in its “family,” there’s a rod for every situation.

You can buy St. Croix Triumph spinning and casting rods in either single piece or as two-piece travel rod. The Triumph lineup also has dedicated salmon and steelhead spinning and casting rods. Finally, there is “the big boy” Triumph Musky rod, though this is only available as a casting rod.

Available Rod Length, Power, and Action in the Triumph Lineup

The St. Croix Triumphs add to their versatility by coming in a lew of sizes, powers, and actions. For example, the spinning rod can be found in lengths from 5′ all the way to 7’6 and powers ranging from ultra light to medium heavy. The smaller sizes work well with kids making this a great birthday present for a grandchild. They light up knowing they have a “special” rod, and you don’t break the bank buying it for them.

There aren’t as many options with the St. Croix Triumph casting rods, but that is because you don’t throw as light of tackle on baitcasters. There are currently five models available in the base spinning, ranging from a 6′ medium power / fast action to a 7′ medium heavy power / fast action. If I was getting started, I’d grab the latter as it would work well for spinnerbaits, plastic worms, and lighter jigs.

If you’re looking for a rod that could handle plastic frogs and heavier jigs, remember that you do have the option of beefing up to the St. Croix Musky lineup. They have several models, such as their 7’6″ Heavy / Fast action that would work just fine for tossing a few toads.

I don’t fish much for salmon or steelhead but the Triumph series comes in a variety of longer models to accommodate fishing for those species. I see no reason why they too wouldn’t be quality products.

You Can Fish for Darn Near Anything

All of this versatility means that you can fish for just about anything with these rods. The ultralight models are great for panfish and the Musky models are great for… Well… Musky.

If you like throwing crankbaits, you can find some medium light models that would work well. The 6’6″ medium / fast rod would do just fine with jerkbaits, and as said above, there are plenty for worms and spinnerbaits. This means that if there’s any hole in your arsenal of fishing rods, you can plug it affordably. That’s important in this day and age.

Where are St. Croix Triumph Rods Made?

If you are looking for an American-made rod, the Triumph will disappoint. While it is designed in Park Falls, Wisconsin, it is manufactured in Fresnillo, Mexico.

Do St. Croix Triumph Rods Come With a Warranty?

The St. Croix Triumph lineup comes with a five year warranty. St. Croix rods offer good warranty service in general (trust me, I’ve had to use it a few times). You should visit their website for full details as they seem to strive to make this better each year. For example, I see they now have an “Excelerator” program that will get you a rod much more quickly, as they’re able to process it based on a photo.

Would I Buy One of These Rods for My Kid?

My children are still young so casting rods are out of the question, but I have purchased a St. Croix Triumph spinning rod for my son. I wouldn’t recommend this as the first rod you purchase for a kid. You’ll want to ensure they like the sport first, and also make sure they know how to take care of their stuff, as this is no Ugly Stik, but I’d have no qualms about recommending this rod for any child who fits that bill.

What Reel Should I Pair This With?

You could put pretty much any spinning or casting reel on a Triumph but, again, one of the benefits of this tier is it isn’t that expensive. It wouldn’t make much sense to take out a second mortgage for a reel for this rod. Instead, I’d keep things simple. I have Plfueger Trions paired with my Triumphs and they work quite well. For casting, I’d go with a Pro Qualifier from Bass Pro which you can often get on sale.

Conclusions

If you’re in the market for your first “nice” rod, it’s hard to beat a St. Croix Triumph spinning or casting rod. They comes in enough lengths, powers, and actions to allow for many presentations and does this all without being too expensive. It is also backed by a 5-year warranty and St. Croix’s great customer service. I own several and wouldn’t hesitate to buy more if my wife wasn’t looking.

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Can You Use a Spinning Reel on a Casting Rod?

One of the fun things about writing this blog is that I get to search the internet looking for different questions about fishing that beginners are asking so I can write an article that answers the question and helps them. Today, we’ll discuss two of the ultimate beginner questions: what is the difference between a spinning reel and casting reel, and can you use a spinning reel on a casting rod? While we’re at it, we’ll discuss if a fishing rod can break if it’s bent the wrong way, because if you’re going to mismatch equipment, this is a real concern.

Yes, you can put a spinning reel on a casting rod in a pinch and you might even find the combination serviceable for light fishing, but there are several drawbacks. (1). You’ll have reduced casting distance. (2) There is the potential for damaging the rod. (3) Your rod will have reduced power and action for the blank. (4). Everyone who doesn’t have a life will be laughing at you, or at the very least rolling their eyes.

Let’s talk a little bit about these in detail so you can make an informed decision before you head off to the lake with one of these mismatched combos.

Spinning vs. Casting Reel – What’s the Difference?

It’s beyond the scope of this article to discuss all the differences between spinning reels and casting reels but you do need to at least know what they look like and how they generally work to understand why you shouldn’t swap the two.

A spinning reel is designed for use with a spinning rod. These reels are meant to be mounted on and fished from the underside of a rod, so it is facing towards the ground while you’re reeling.

Line is kept on the spinning reel by way of its bail. In the photo below, look at how the line leaves the reel and bends in a 90-degree angle before continuing on towards the rod tip. The point where it bends is called the line roller, and the golden semi-circle extending away from that is called the bail.

To release line, you would “flip” the bail by moving it up towards the top of the spinning reel. This releases line from the spool (the part the main bulk of line is wrapped around), as it is no longer kept under tension by the bail and line roller. Note, the spool does not spin while line is being released. It only spins while line is being reeled back on.

A casting reel is designed for use with a casting rod. These reels are meant to be mounted on and fished from the top of a rod, so it is facing towards the sky while you’re reeling.

Line is held onto the spool by a lock which is disengaged by pressing the spool release button at the back of the reel. This allows the spool to spin freely as line is stripped from it. To reengage the spool lock, one turns the reel handle.

The different design of these two reels necessitates use on different types of rods. Line from a spinning reel releases much further away from the rod than it would from a casting reel, which sits much closer. Thus, the line guides on the rod are aligned differently.

Let’s examine that a bit further as I discuss the first reason you don’t want to use a spinning reel on a casting rod:

1. While You Can Use A Spinning On A Casting Rod, It Won’t Cast As Far

If you’re seriously considering trying a spinning reel on a casting rod, I doubt you’ll care about the three other concerns I’ll raise in this article, but you should care about this one. Everyone benefits from longer casts.

If you look at a spinning rod you’ll notice that the first two line guides closest to the handle tend to be much further out than the line guides further up the blank. This is to accommodate the fact that line leaves the spinning reel farther away from the rod than it would on a casting reel.

By putting a spinning reel on the wrong type of rod, you’re risking reduced casting distance because the line can no longer flow as naturally or evenly. Instead, it has to immediately bend towards line guides that sit much closer towards the blank on a casting rod.

This immediate deflection is going to cause friction which is going to reduce casting distance. Does this really matter if you’re just going for panfish off a dock, or even just fishing for fun? Probably not.

On the other hand, if you’re fishing spinnerbaits or other lures where you want to cover a lot of water, the cumulative effect of multiple casts at a reduced distance could arguably translate to many less fish caught over the course of a day.

Just picture this: If you lose 3-5 yards on your cast because you’re using improper equipment, that’s 9-15 feet of water that potentially holds fish that won’t see your lure on that cast. If you make 40 casts an hour (which is a pretty conservative figure) and fish for three hours, you’re looking at 1,080 – 1,800 feet of untouched water. A lot of fish could hide there!

2. Using the Wrong Reel Has Potential for Rod Damage

I will admit that I’ve never put a spinning reel on a casting rod in the first place, much less broken a rod by doing so, but there seems to be a heavy debate out there on if putting a spinning reel on a casting rod (or putting a casting reel on a spinning rod) endangers the rod and makes it more likely to break when bent.

How Fishing Rods are Built

The reason for this concern is because fishing rod blanks (the main “rod” part) all have a spine that is formed during their construction.

Fishing rod blanks are hollow and are built by rolling a sheet of graphite or fiberglass over a metal mandrel. Doing so creates a section of overlap called the “spine.” Because of this overlap, this section is thicker than the rest and is considered the “backbone.”

The side directly opposite the spine is thinner and will bend easier, so the objective when building a rod is to align the line guides or “eyes” are opposite to the spine of the rod blank. This way, when a fish strikes, the rod will bend towards the softer side and not against the spine.

Will A Fishing Rod Break If Bent the Wrong Way?

Some people argue that by putting a spinning reel on a casting rod, or a casting reel on a spinning rod, you end up forcing the rod to bend in the opposite direction than it was intended, against its spine, and this can risk catastrophic failure.

The jury is definitely out on that one. There are a lot of people repeating it, but then several others who don’t seem to think it’s a problem. I’ve seen a few results on popular forums where experienced rod builders have taken both sides of the issue. This is clear as mud.

I tried to figure it out myself by taking one of our less expensive rods and just bending it every which way, and I didn’t notice any difference in how far the rod would bend, or feel as though it was about to break.

I’m not sure I’d try it on one of my nicer St. Croix fishing rods, but on the other hand I’m fairly certain (much more than a hunch really) that if you’re fishing with a high-end fishing rod, you probably are going to have the correct type of reel for it.

On the other hand, if you’re just starting out and found this crazy combo in your granddad’s shed, or pieced it together for a few bucks at a local tag sale, does it really matter if the rod eventually breaks?

3. A Mismatched Rod and Reel Can Alter the Rod’s Power and Action

This one I’d definitely believe. Fishing rods are carefully crafted to ensure that they meet manufacturer standards for power and action.

Power is the rod’s resistance to bending in the first place, while action refers to where along the blank it will bend (a fast action would bend near the tip, a moderate action further down towards the middle).

Altering the rod in any way is likely to change this. If you don’t believe me, have a rod re-tipped after you break it. Compare it against the same rod, undamaged. The shorter one is going to feel different (usually less flexible) than its unbroken sibling.

If you are mismatching your rod and reel type, then you’re using the rod in a way the manufacturer never intended or designed for. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it is something to consider. You might find that the rod performs a bit differently is all.

This could be a deal breaker for someone who demands precision, but I again suppose that if you’re the type of person who is doing this, the rod’s power and action probably aren’t at the top of your concerns!

4. “They’re All Going to Laugh at You” If You Use a Spinning Reel on a Casting Rod

Sometimes you just want to “fake it ’til you make it,” but if you’re using a spinning reel on a casting rod (or vice versa), you aren’t fooling anyone. This isn’t really fair as the reason you’re using this strange combo may simply be it’s all you stumbled into and could afford, but such is life.

There are plenty of people across the world who have the intestinal fortitude to mismatch a spinning reel and casting rod, who brave all the dangers I warned about, and who catch fish regularly. It will work, but you are going to look silly doing it.

Granted, this drawback really shouldn’t matter to you as a grown adult (what do you care what someone else thinks of you?), but it might matter to your kids. Bullying is tough these days and even if experiencing it can teach resilience, we shouldn’t set our children up for it on purpose.

If you see someone out there using their rod this way, cut them a break and don’t be rude. You don’t know what their circumstances are. This might be all that they can afford, or perhaps it’s all they know. You can offer assistance or insight but be kind when you do so and don’t be a jerk about it. The world is full of jerks and us fishermen and women need to stick together.

Conclusions

As discussed, while you certainly “can” use a spinning reel on a casting rod, there are several good reasons why you shouldn’t aim to. It’s one thing to just pick up a couple of odds and ends at a tag sale and throw them together to make things work, but you certainly shouldn’t buy a mismatched rod and reel new.

If you do, there’s a good chance you’ll break your fishing rod because it bends the wrong way, and an even better chance that you won’t get to use it to its full potential. It would be a lot like trying to drive in a nail with the butt of a screwdriver. Yeah, it’s passable if it’s all you have, but certainly not recommended.

If you’re new to fishing and are looking for some tips on what type of gear you should buy, consider checking out my post on the basic skills you need to take your kid fishing. It will set you up with a rod and reel combo suggestion as well as discuss what other gear you should buy.

I also have a detailed post on whether or not expensive fishing rods are really worth it. Reading this might shed some insight that can save you a few dollars to put towards a reel that matches the rod.

Finally, if you’re on a tight budget and need to find a spinning rod to go with your spinning reel, consider reading my post about how to buy used fishing rods with confidence as this is something I do frequently that saves me a lot of money and allows me to get some quality items for a great price.

As always, I hope you found this article helpful. If you did, please consider sharing it so it can help others too.

Thanks,

John Paxton

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Are Expensive Fishing Rods Worth It?

My wife constantly teases me about how I turn one of the world’s least expensive hobbies into one of my most expensive obsessions. She can’t fathom why I would “need” a rod that costs several hundred dollars when there are plenty of perfectly good ones out there for less than fifty. If you’re new to fishing, you or your spouse might be wondering the same thing. Is there really a point to buying an expensive fishing rod?

In my experience, you can definitely feel the difference between expensive and cheaper fishing rods. Expensive rods are more sensitive, able to detect smaller bites, and generally more fun to use than their cheaper counterparts.

With that said, the law of diminishing returns definitely applies. There’s much more difference between a $50 rod and a $150 rod than between a $100 rod and a $300 rod.

Before we go any further: please note that most of the rods here are recommendations for parents. If you’re seeking some advice on what type of rods you should buy for your kids or grand kids, I have another article that discusses that here. Further, if you’re interested in learning if expensive fishing reels are worth it, I wrote an article that discusses that here. Check it out.

Expensive Fishing Rods Have Diminishing Returns

As you’ll soon see, I currently own eight different classes of St. Croix rods, including their entry level bass fishing rod, the Triumph, and their top-end product, the Legend Xtreme. I will tell you right now that there is a huge difference between these two rods.

There is significantly less difference between my Avid rods (a mid-tier offering) and the Xtreme series. There is almost no perceptible difference between my Legend Elite and Legend Xtreme rods, although the latter has a few nice touches.

Keep this in mind as you read through my reviews. You may not have a legitimate need or purpose for one of the higher-end rods. You may live a perfectly happy life with rods lower on the price scale.

Intended Use of the Rod

When you’re trying to figure out how much you should spend on a fishing rod, or what class of rod to purchase, you also want to consider the intended use. Ask yourself a few questions. What types of lures you want to use with the rod? How likely it is that you’ll know a fish has struck with the technique you’re using?

I use my Legend Xtreme as a bass jig rod because I am less comfortable with that technique. I wanted a rod precise enough to help me understand what was happening under the water. The Legend Xtreme allows me to feel every twitch, to differentiate between rocks and leaves on the bottom, and to make the most out of this technique.

It would, however, be total overkill for a spinnerbait. There is never any doubt that a fish has struck a spinnerbait. You could use any rod in this list below equally well with this technique. The only reason you might prefer one of the more expensive fishing rods would be that they have a lower weight, but you’re only shaving off tenths of an ounce. That absolutely would add up if you were fishing 8-10 hours per day, but if you’re just a recreational fisherman, you’re wasting your money.

A Few Notes Before We Begin

When comparing fishing rods it’s important to realize that their measurements are not standardized in the industry.

Fishing rods come in many different powers, such as medium-heavy. However, two different manufacturers could have completely different opinions for what “medium-heavy power” is. This makes comparisons difficult unless you happen to favor one brand.

Luckily, I do. While I do have more than my share of UglyStiks, as they’re great rods for kids, the majority of my rods were manufactured by St. Croix Rods. They are high-quality, reasonably priced, feature a great warranty, and most importantly (to me at least), sticking with one manufacturer gives me the consistency in power ratings.

It’s also important to remember that St. Croix Rods offer many more series than these, but these are the ones I’ve owned, used, and thoroughly tested. I’m uncomfortable making recommendations about products I haven’t fielded, so this won’t discuss every last series that they make.

I also own one of their panfish series of rods, but will concentrate on their bass lineup here. If you want to learn more about my thoughts on why the panfish series is an awesome “high-end” rod for kids, you can read my post about it here.

I feel this helps me select the right tool for the job, and also should lend some consistency to this article. With that out of the way, let’s discuss the differences between the various lines of St. Croix Rods that I own.

St. Croix Triumph

One of the least expensive St. Croix's on the market, the Triumph fishing rod is a good  beginner's choice.

The St. Croix Triumph series is their “entry level rod” but that is a relative term. An “entry level” St. Croix rod is still an impressive fishing tool that you’ll keep in your rod box for years.

The Triumph series features SCII graphite and is manufactured in Mexico. It comes with a 5-year warranty, though I’ve found the rod to be sturdy and hold up well even to my four-year-old’s use.

These come in a variety of sizes, including short ultralights which are very appropriate for small children and anyone else who is fishing for panfish.

These rods are affordable and could be good “workhorse” rods for your family. You can buy two or more of them for the price of some of the higher-end series discussed below.

I don’t find these rods to be the most sensitive that I own so I tend to use them for things like topwater or spinnerbaits. They’re fine for any technique where the bite is going to be obvious. You certainly don’t need an overly expensive fishing rod for every technique. Use Triumphs where it makes sense.

If you’re interested in picking up this great rod, you can buy it at Amazon:

St. Croix Premier

The Premier line of fishing rods come in a number of lengths, powers, and actions, and many aren't expensive.

The St. Croix Premier are a step above the Triumph. They are designed and built in the United States out of SCII graphite and feature a 5-year warranty. I’d consider these to almost be the “standard” rods that St. Croix offers. They come in an enormous variety of lengths, powers, and actions, and are one of the few in the lineup that feature a spinning rod that comes in heavy power.

I wanted to get my wife a rod that she could fish frogs with and I knew she would need a heavy power brute to pull fish from vast vegetation, but she doesn’t use baitcasters. The Premier spinning rod in heavy power, fast action is a great spinning rod for frog fishing.

Recently, I picked up a 6′ model with medium power and fast action for my son’s first “spinner baits” rod and presented it to him for his 5th birthday. This really is the line where you can find a rod for anything.

I don’t own very many of these, but I do appreciate the wide variety offered and the range of applications they support. You can pick your own up at Amazon today.

St. Croix Mojo Bass

The Mojo Bass series is a great fishing rod because it isn't expensive but does offer split grips and many technique-specific actions.

The Mojo Bass Series is very popular for St. Croix and it’s easy to see why. They were redesigned a few years ago and now feature SCIII graphite though mine are the older versions with SCII. These come in split grips, have a 5-year warranty, and are a good all-around value for the money. While this series is designed in the United States, it is not manufactured here if that is important to you.

I own a few of the Mojo series and spend quite a bit of time fishing with them. My main spinnerbait rod is a medium-heavy power, fast action Mojo casting rod. I like it because it’s lightweight enough to toss all day but also inexpensive enough that I don’t think twice handing it to my five-year-old to reel in a fish.

I would recommend it as a good balance between price and performance. They series comes in a variety of lengths, powers, and actions with specific techniques in mind.

I used to consider the Mojo series a good rod for techniques where you really didn’t need a hyper-sensitive blank to detect light bites, but now that they share the same SCIII graphite as the Avid series (discussed below) they make a lot more sense for other techniques where you want greater sensitivity.

This change to SCIII might allow the Mojo to take a serious run at “best bang for your buck.” Check them out on Amazon to find the best price.

St. Croix Avid Series

I consider the St. Croix Avid Series to be the best bang for your buck.  It is very sensitive and isn't that expensive of a fishing rod.

In my opinion, the Avid series is your best bang for your buck. I’d argue that after this series, the law of diminishing returns really kicks in. These rods have SCIII graphite like the Mojo, but feature a 15-year transferable warranty. That alone is worth the price difference from a Mojo, and makes the Avid series a great rod to purchase used (see my guide for doing so here).

The Avid family comes in a variety of shapes and colors. I’m kind of a “meat and potatoes” guy, so I personally prefer the classic look of the Avid Spinning and Casting, both of which are designed and built in the United States.

I really enjoy the Avid series so I use them for most of my fishing. Even though I probably don’t need a rod this sensitive for a spinnerbait, it is just fun to toss one with these. I also like using an Avid for throwing out Senkos or texas-rigged worms as I can detect bites better.

If you’re looking for a great gift for your wife or daughter, you can pick up the Avid Pearl, which is a rod designed specifically for women. These are gorgeous, high-performing rods. My wife has owned one for the better part of a decade and it has never let her down. I do wish it came in medium-heavy power as a spinning rod, however.

My wife loves her St. Croix Avid Pearl.
The Avid Pearl would make a great Mother’s Day gift for a fishing wife.

St. Croix Legend Tournament

While not as expensive as some of the other fishing rods St. Croix offers, the Legend Tournament is still a fine rod for your arsenal.
The Legend Tournament (right) makes for a great bass jig rod.

I picked up two St. Croix Legend Tournament rods at an auction once and ended up selling one of them as it was a little bit more specific of a power/action than I needed. These come in a ton of casting models and a decent amount of spinning models, and they’re “technique specific” meaning that each variation was specifically designed for a particular use.

This of course doesn’t mean that you can only use them for what the label says, but it does help you plan as you’re building your arsenal.

They come in SCIV graphite, are designed and built in the United States, and feature a 15-year transferable warranty. They really are designed more for the tournament fisherman than just a simple fishing father, and if money was on the line and you wanted a great balance of sensitivity and performance, I could see building out a rod locker mostly comprised of these.

While they certainly aren’t cheap, they’re not anywhere near as expensive as the Legend Elite and Legend Xtreme fishing rods discussed below. If you’re the kind of person who really values high-end equipment, this brand might be your “workhorse” rather than some of the more affordable options others use to fill that role.

St. Croix Legend Elite

The St. Croix Legend Elite is expensive, but is also my favorite fishing rod.

While the Avid series might be the best bang for your buck, I absolutely LOVE my Legend Elites. I own one for each of my two favorite fishing techniques: the drop shot and the jerkbait.

They are one of the more expensive fishing rods out there, but they’re well worth it. Their cost is explained by their combination of premium SCV and SCVI graphite and other quality components. These come with a 15-year transferable warranty and are designed and manufactured in the United States.

These are just the perfect drop shot rods. My medium-light power, fast action “wizard wand” is hands-down the favorite rod I own. I could fish with it all day long and it has caught some extremely large fish for its size and power, including a bruiser carp.

The 6’6″ medium power, fast action rod I use for jerkbaits is also great and allows me to work this labor-intensive technique throughout a long day without tiring. I don’t really “need” this sensitive of a rod for a jerkbait (the bites are obvious), but when you’re jerking in giant lures all day, it’s nice to do so on a very light rod.

These are high-end fishing rods and deserve a high-end reel. I favor the Pflueger Patriarch as I’m a fan of the brand and feel it matches very well.

It’s a little hard for me to recommend that anyone go and spend the kind of money that these command new, but if you can find one used, the transferable warranty makes these a great buy, especially if you prefer their subdued design over the more pronounced Xtreme series.

St. Croix Legend Xtreme

Though one of the more expensive fishing rods you can buy, the St. Croix Legend Xtreme is a great choice for applications that demand sensitivity.

The St. Croix Legend Xtreme is another very expensive fishing rod. It is technically the “best” fishing rod that I own, but I don’t use it that often because I don’t really fish bass jigs that frequently ever since my son started coming out fishing with me. This is a big fish lure, and therefore this is my big fish rod, so I’m usually only tossing it the rare times I go out myself.

I had a tough time learning to fish with bass jigs. It’s a technique I taught myself later in life and didn’t grow up on. Because of this, I found I had a hard time detecting light bites and didn’t have much success until I went out and bought this rod specifically for the purpose.

I’m much more successful now and do feel that the rod made a difference. I’m glad I have it and I wouldn’t sell it. If you have a technique that you really need to feel precisely what is under the water, it might make sense to look at a top-class, expensive rod such as the Legend Xtreme, but I do think it would be completely overkill for most techniques.

The Legend Xtreme features a combination of SCV and SCVI graphite, comes in a wide range of sizes, powers, and speeds, and is designed and manufactured in the United States. It comes with a 15-year transferable warranty.

Where to Buy These Rods

If you’re wondering where to buy any of the rods in this article, let me fill you in on a little secret: St. Croix rods rarely, if ever, go on sale in box stores. Most of the sales that these stores have will specifically exclude this brand. While you can, on occasion, find that the manufacturer itself will offer a sale for select items, it’s very rare to see them discounted at a local store.

Thus, these rods a great way to support a local tackle shop that carries them, as you don’t have to worry about missing out on a great deal by supporting your neighbor. Or, if you don’t have a tackle shop nearby, you can also simply use Amazon and enjoy the convenience of buying from a retailer you have probably used extensively in the past. Here’s a link to the rod that I personally feel is the best value.

Conclusion: Expensive Fishing Rods Are Worth It (Sometimes).

You shouldn’t let a hobby break your budget, but if you’re going to get into one as potentially frustrating as fishing, you ought to start with decent equipment. While I’d certainly advocate buying a less expensive brand for your kids, you as the fishing father or mother should invest in quality. St. Croix Rods are a great choice.

Out of all of the rod series discussed above, I’d argue that your first one should probably be a Triumph, or a Premier. These are solid fishing rods that you can be proud of without spoiling yourself with something too expensive, or light.

Neither of these models will let you down and you could pick up a few different sizes, powers, and actions in these series for the price of one of the more expensive ones. This will allow you to build up your arsenal quickly and experiment with different lures and techniques.

I hope this article and my review of the different models helped to break down some differences and give you a little real world perspective on the different St. Croix rod series. I’d like to invite you to join my Facebook group to be updated on new articles. I’ve thought about how best to reach folks and decided that I hate mailing lists, and Facebook is the way to go. Please consider liking the page so we can keep in touch.

Thanks,

John Paxton

Best Fishing Rods for Kids – Advice from a Fisherman

If you’re a parent looking to purchase your kid’s first fishing rod and you ask the internet what fishing pole is best for kids, the advice you’ll receive can be pretty mixed. Dedicated fishing websites will tend to give you reliable information, but there are many “one off” articles written by bloggers in other genres that are clearly written by people who know very little about fishing, yet are very eager to sell you something. That bugs me, so I wrote this article to try and help.

OK, but why should you trust me? Because I didn’t get a memo from my boss that I had to write this article. Instead, I’m a father of two who has been taking his (now 5-year-old) son out fishing at least 3 or 4 times each week for the past four years . I’ve also taken several other cousins, nephews, my niece, and many friends’ children out over the past decade (to say nothing of starting as a little sprout myself). I’ve spent hundreds of hours fishing with kids and made this website to help you teach your own kids how to fish. That’s why.

What Are My Favorite Fishing Rods for Kids?

I’m going to talk about three specific kids fishing poles that are best for different ages, but if you’re a “cut to the chase” kind of person, I’ll lay it out very clearly:

I’m going to dive a bit more into why I selected these three rods as “the best,” but before I do, let me assure you of a few things:

  • The rods I recommend are all rods that I personally own.
  • These are all rods that my son has used for dozens upon dozens of hours.

In short, this article contains actual “real world” testing. Not flipping some products around in my hand for 20 minutes and condensing other reviews into one. I know that sounds snarky, but I’m truly frustrated at the thought of someone wasting your money and jeopardizing the chance that your kid will have a good experience fishing.

A Brief Word on How I Define “The Best Fishing Rod for Kids”

I go a bit against the grain and recommend that you start your children with a quality spinning rods rather than an “inexpensive” spincast rod. I intend to write an article justifying my position more thoroughly, but in brief, spinning rods and reels:

  • Aren’t that much harder to cast (which doesn’t really matter when your kids are young, since you’ll be doing all the casting anyway);
  • Can be switched from left- to right-hand retrieve as needed (you’re stuck with whatever the spincast reel starts as);
  • Are much more useful for a wide variety of applications, thus, they are more likely to be utilized throughout your child’s life.

I don’t think you’ll get your money’s worth out of one of the “kid’s combos” that have the latest princess or superhero on it. I’d rather make a recommendation for a setup that you could see your child using for many years, and one that you might even use in a pinch.

The Best Fishing Rod for Toddlers: the Zebco Dock Demon

This was my son’s first fishing rod. It was perfect for casting indoors, and also would make a good ice fishing rod in a pinch.

My son started fishing with a Zebco Dock Demon spinning rod. At just over 2.5′ long, you’d be hard-pressed to find a rod that would fit a toddler better. It was the perfect size for casting around our house while I was teaching him how to reel in a lure. I appreciate the way it can be used in tight quarters!

This rod is extremely durable and stood up to everything my son did with it. This, of course, was to mostly whack the couch and drag the rod behind him in the dirt. It stood up to several months of aggressive use by a toddler without any issue.

You can find this rod with a combo that comes with a simple reel that is about all that you need for learning purposes. It is not as durable as the rod, but if you’re just teaching your kid to reel with it, this doesn’t matter.

When/if the reel breaks, the rod will accept another standard spinning reel. I’d be surprised to find your kids break it before they outgrow it.

Fishing with my son
My son fishing with his Zebco Dock Demon.

Why the Zebco Dock Demon Is a Great Fishing Pole for Small Kids:

The Zebco Dock Demon is one of the best fishing poles for small kids for several reasons:

  • It’s a small rod that does well for teaching your kids how to reel in a lure inside;
  • The Zebco Dock Demon is a great fishing rod for a very small child to handle without any fatigue or issues in real fishing conditions;
  • It is a good “toy” rod that allows your child to act like you while you are fishing and waiting to hook something to hand them to reel in;
  • The Zebco Dock Demon makes a plausible ice fishing rod.
  • You could also use it to vertical jigging right over the boat.

My son really enjoyed this product and it worked very well for my family. I would buy it again for my daughter, but I don’t need to, as our original one still works fine. To me, that is a testament to its durability. I would recommend this for your own family. If you’re interested in buying one, Amazon usually has it in stock for a very competitive price.

The Best Fishing Pole for Kids: the Shakespeare Ugly Stik Elite

The Ugly Stik Elite has quickly become a workhorse for my family.

I like the Shakespeare Ugly Stik Elite so much that I own six of them and often pick one up while I’m fishing with my son. This was his first “real” rod. The objective was for him to use it to catch fish rather than as a learning aide to help with the basic mechanics of reeling as he did with the Dock Doctor.

They are darn near unbreakable and are fairly sensitive fishing poles that detect bites pretty well and are great for kids. They’re definitely not as sensitive as a “high-end” rod but you won’t have trouble knowing that a fish is on the line.

Ugly Stiks are renowned for their durability and can put up with a ton of abuse. They are true workhorse rods that will get your kids through their more rambunctious years and could very well last as long as your kids interest in fishing does. I can attest to this as my son has reeled in fish on some of the first Ugly Stiks that I used 30 years ago!

How Long of a Fishing Pole Does a Child Need?

You can purchase an Ugly Stik Elite in lengths from 4’6″ to 7’6″ which makes it ideal for beginners of all sizes. I have several 4’6″ and 5′ models that I bought for my son between the time he was 2 and 4 years old. I’d recommend a similar size for a kid that small. Once they get a bit older, you can upgrade them to a 6′ or 6’6″ model.

The 4’6″ and 5′ long fishing poless make fighting panfish fun, so literally any fish your kids catch is going to tug and bend the rod for them. A little bit of drama never hurt anyone!

If you’re worried about how the smaller Ugly Stik’s will hold up in case your kid hooks a larger fish, I can personally attest that they can stand up well enough to larger fish such as catfish as seen in the photo below:

Ugly Stik makes some of the best kids fishing rods.  They are renowned for their durability, so even their light models will stand up well to larger fish.

Though you can purchase these rods as a rod/reel combo, these are “main” fishing rods for my family, so I went out and bought specific reels for them. They balance very well with Pflueger President spinning rods in the 6920 size.

If this is your child’s first fishing pole, it might be best to get the reel that comes with the combo, but this company is known for its rods more so than its reels. I think you’ll end up wanting to replace the reel if your kids stick with this hobby.

Why the Ugly Stik Elite is My Favorite Fishing Rod for Kids:

In sum, I recommend the Ugly Stik Elite as your main fishing rod for kids for the following reasons:

  • This workhorse is darn near unbreakable, even by kids;
  • It has a good amount of sensitivity for the price and can detect bites from panfish just fine;
  • I can tell you from experience that it holds up very well against larger fish like catfish and freshwater drum;
  • It has a nice finish. I like the cork rod and the subtle graphics. It looks like a true fishing rod, rather than a toy;
  • The balance of price, performance, and durability makes it the most rationale choice for building out your arsenal of children’s fishing rods.

Honorable Mention – The Ugly Stik GX2

Shakespeare manufactures another Ugly Stik that gives the Elite a run for its money for the tile of “Best Fishing Pole for Kids,” the GX2. The GX2 costs slightly less money than the Elite (though be sure to check Amazon for the best price, as the Elite often matches the price of the GX2). The difference between the two is fairly negligible:

  • The GX2 comes with a black EVA foam handle whereas the Elite has a cork handle;
  • The 4’6″ ultralight GX2 only has 5 line guides compared to the Elite’s 6 (note: the GX2 comes in many sizes, I merely picked one for the comparison);

With the two I compared, both were rated for the same size of lure and line, so it’s really going to come down to your preference of handle more than anything else. I prefer cork, so I bought the Elite for my son. My dad purchased several GX2s for himself as he thinks they “look” more like a traditional Ugly Stik.

The Best “High-End” Fishing Rod for Kids: the St. Croix Panfish Series

Let me just start by saying something loud and clear: do not buy the rod I’m about to describe to you unless your kid definitely loves fishing. If your child is just starting to fish, go buy the Dock Demon or one of the Ugly Stiks I discussed above, and let them start with that.

If, however, you’re in the market for a “high-end” rod for your little angler, you can’t go wrong with the Panfish Series by St. Croix rods. They are light weight (our 5′ model weighs 2.2 oz), extremely sensitive, and make catching little fish an absolute ball!

My son calls this his “birthday rod” and gets annoyed with me if I use it, but I can’t help myself. If he gets distracted I always have to say something like, “Hey buddy, why not let your old man throw this one out really far for you!”

It just is a dream to fish and I might have to get a few more. It’s a very sensitive rod that allows you feel bites much better than the Ugly Stiks, and therefore catch more fish. It also seems to cast the same drop shot a little further, even though I’ve paired it with the same Pflueger President 6920.

With that said, these benefits come at a cost. It is much more expensive than the Ugly Stiks and I’d imagine it has to be more fragile (Luckily, my son has yet to confirm this). At least I have the peace of mind to know it comes with a solid warranty.

The panfish series is at a great price point where it is expensive but not prohibitively so. This helps give the rod an aura of mystique for your children and will let them take pride in the knowledge that they’ve been trusted with something important without your needing to mortgage the house.

The St. Croix panfish is a quality rod for any little angler who is in love with the sport of fishing.

Why I love My Son’s St. Croix Panfish Series:

If you’re looking for a great high-end fishing rod for kids, I recommend the St. Croix panfish series for the following reasons:

  • While it is more expensive than the Ugly Stiks, it is not ridiculously so and remains in the realm of “reasonableness” if your children are serious about fishing;
  • It’s a great performing rod that makes fighting smaller fish like panfish a ton of fun;
  • The St. Croix Panfish series is much more sensitive than the Ugly Stiks and will allow you to better detect bites;
  • It’s just a great “special gift” to give your little angler. It’s the first true “valuable” that my son has owned, and it gives him a sense of pride.

Honorable (but Totally Unrealistic) Mentions

When I was searching for my son’s “birthday rod,” I also considered the Avid series in a 5’6 ultralight size. It is a little bit nicer of a rod, but I couldn’t justify the extra expense for a four-year-old.

I own about 20 St. Croix rods of various types and the experience has led me to believe that the Avid line of rods is normally St. Croix’s best bang for your buck, but when it comes to a good rod for kids, even I have to admit that they’re simply overkill.

There are several other options from St. Croix (such as the Legend Elite Panfish) that are significantly more expensive, light, and sensitive. I can’t in good conscious recommend those for a small child. They don’t need that sensitive of a rod and any benefit would be lost on them. With that said, it would make for a very well-received birthday gift.

If you’re in the market for one, have your kids get it for you on Mother’s or Father’s Day to show appreciation for how hard you work to put them on fish!

What to Know Before You Buy a Fishing Rod for Your Kids

Look, I know that I’m advocating starting off with good equipment here. That can be a bit counter-intuitive, especially if you don’t know if the hobby will stick.

The temptation is probably strong to just cave and buy some cheap little spincast combo with the latest princess on it and call it a day, but I honestly think you would be wasting your money and doing your kids a disservice.

Get them the right equipment from the start. Give them an honest chance at doing well enough at this sport to become infatuated with it. Don’t set them up for failure by buying junk destined for a cobwebbed corner of your garage. Get them something they can be proud of and use!

Granted, gear alone does not make an angler. If you need more help teaching your kids how to fish, check out some of my other articles that can help reduce your learning curve and spark your kid’s passion for fishing.

Suggested Reading

If you’re completely new, I’d start with my article on the basic skills you need to take your kids fishing. This article will set you up with all the equipment that you need and teach you how to tie a knot, rig a drop shot, find a good fishing spot, cast the rod, reel in and land a fish.

I hope this article gave you actionable information and cut down the learning curve a bit. As always, if you found this article helpful, please consider sharing it so that it can help others.

I would like to point out that I have a book for sale, Fishing with Kids: A Parent’s Guide that dives into this and several other topics. If you enjoyed this post, please consider purchasing it.

Thanks,

John Paxton

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How to Buy Used Fishing Rods With Confidence

If your family is just starting to learn to fish, you could be in for some “sticker shock” when you look at the fishing rods section at your local tackle shop. With some rods running several hundred dollars, you might wonder: is it worth it to buy an expensive fishing rod? In a word, yes, it is. But it’s even better when you buy that expensive fishing rod used. This article will help you learn what to look for when buying a used rod.

Why Expensive Fishing Rods Are Worth It

There’s little point in considering the benefits of buying a used fishing rod unless you understand why expensive ones are worth it. I wrote an entire article that goes into that topic in detail, and I suggest that you read it. It breaks down an entire lineup of rods that I own and discusses the pros and cons of each.

For those in a rush, expensive rods are more sensitive, tend to be a lighter weight, and are better balanced. This means that you can detect fish bites easier, and fish for longer without becoming tired.

Why Buying An Expensive Fishing Rod Used is the Way to Go

Buying your fishing rods used is a great way to reduce expenses while still acquiring quality equipment, but it can be a little nerve-wracking. You might worry that there’s something wrong with the rod and you’re buying a lemon.

While it’s always going to be tough to judge a rod by some photos in an online auction, I do have some tips for how you can purchase a used fishing rod with confidence. If everything is OK with the rod, you get a smoking deal, but even if something goes wrong, you’ll at least break even with what the cost of a new rod would have been with the method I’m about to teach you.

I know this works because I’m the second owner for most of my fishing rods, and I have learned a thing or two after several dozen purchases.

In this article, I will teach you how to research a warranty to know the “break even point” for price, examine a rod in person or from photos, and then buy it without losing any sleep.

It should go without saying that much of the issues I’ll discuss aren’t a huge deal for a children’s starter rod that you pick up at a tag sale. The scope of this article is more directed at the nicer rods that you might wish to acquire used.

NOTE: Further down, I’ll show you a case study showing my exact methodology while researching an actual high-end rod. I’m not going to use the manufacturer’s name because the terms and conditions of their warranty could change at any moment, as could their product’s price.

Step 1: What to Look For When Buying a Used Rod

There are some ways that you can tell if a used fishing rod is damaged before you buy it. If you’re buying online, get as many photos as you can and ask the seller for more if necessary. If in person, examine the following very carefully:

The Line Guides Especially the Tip

Before buying a used fishing rod, look at the line guides and examine them for any signs of wear. Specifically, you want to make sure that they all appear aligned properly, that the threads holding them to the rod appear to be original, and that there are no deep cuts or gouges in the line guides.

While some rods are designed with guides that don’t all align properly, if there is obviously an issue with one of them being bent too far, it could be a warning sign that the rod hasn’t been maintained very well. It’s not that hard of a thing to fix (gentle pressure will usually bend it back) but it is a possible failure point in the future that you should be aware of.

Line guides are held onto the rod blank by two sets of threaded bands on the top and bottom of the guide. These are wound tightly and have a finish applied over them. If one set of bands is a distinctly different color than the others, it could be a sign of prior damage. You will want to double check and make sure that this wasn’t a stylistic choice of the manufacturer before you pass on a rod because of this.

Older line guides weren't always great with braid.  Make sure you inspect these before buying any fishing rod used, or you could make an expensive mistake that isn't worth it.
Ensure you inspect each line guide for damage. A scuff here could cost you the fish of the lifetime.

You’ll also want to double check each guide to make sure that the spacer or insert within each guide is intact. Some manufacturers have a metal circle that they place inside of the guides and these are common failure points. You’ll notice that they are missing on some rods.

Some older rods don’t do very well with braided line because the line cuts into their guides over time and creates a groove. This in turn can compromise your fishing line if it touches the groove as it passes through the damaged guide.

Many people secure their hooks and lures against the line guides. This is terrible for them as the sharp hooks can ding them up and damage them, but it is prevalent. Basically, just check for anything that seems out of the norm. It’s easy to do this in person, just run your finger through each guide and see if it feels smooth. When buying online, this obviously isn’t an option, so insist on good photos.

Bear in mind that all of these issues are only magnified as you move further up the rod blank towards the tip. The guides all get smaller and more fragile and more likely to break. There is no shortage of fishing rods in this world with a broken tip.

If the fishing rod tip is damaged, pass on buying it.
Pay close attention to the tip of the fishing rod you’re thinking of purchasing. If anything is likely to be damaged, this is it.

The Handle

Before buying a used fishing rod, look at its handle, especially if it is cork. Check for pitting or gouges in the cork. A little is normal but you wouldn’t want anything excessive as it is a sign that the rod was neglected or is very old.

You’ll also want to check the coloration. Cork will darken over time as grime, dust, and sweat rub into it from fishing. Lighter cork could indicate less use, or it could simply indicate a seller who bothered to clean up the rod and make it presentable.

Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but when I see a cork handle for sale that needs a proper cleaning, a little voice asks, “If the seller can’t be bothered to clean this before listing it for $200, what other maintenance did he forgo?”

Expensive fishing rods like St. Croix come with high-quality cork.  Inspect it for damage before buying a used fishing rod.
The pitting at the bottom of this rod indicates that it has seen some use. I know this because I bought it new 10 years ago and have brought it on plenty of adventures. This would be fixable if I was so inclined, but it doesn’t affect the action of the rod.

If you’re in person, make sure that you check the reel seat to see if it feels tight and snug, as these tend to loosen over the years (bringing along your own reel to test it with will help). This is a fairly annoying issue if you don’t catch it, and it almost cost me a reel once that fell into the depths of Otter Creek, Vermont (Luckily, I was able to retrieve it – 1 yard at a time).

The Hook Holder

Many rods have a hook holder near their handle. This is generally a piece of metal that almost looks like a paper clip. After I had the little bilge fiasco that I discussed in this thread, I noticed that a few of my rods started rusting over in this area.

This doesn’t seem to have affected their action at all but you have to figure that eventually the hook holder will fail and I’ll need to find another option. Though they do sell some snap on hook holders, you really don’t want to add unnecessary weight to a high-caliber rod, so you’re better off if you can find a rod without this issue.

Examine the hook keeper before you buy a fishing rod used.  While this is a minor element, if it is damaged, it can be a sign that the rod was abused.
It’s a little bit hard to see but there is some rust near the hook holder. It’s not supposed to be there and can’t possibly help, but it is definitely something that would be very easy to overlook.

The Label

This is one of the most important things to look for when buying a used fishing rod, especially if it is a more expensive brand. Many manufacturers will void their warranty on a rod by removing or scuffing up their label. This indicates that the rod had a traumatic failure (usually a snapped tip), was returned to the factory and repaired, but is not as good as new.

If you see a rod with a missing label, you run a significant risk that there is no warranty or an exceptionally short warranty (that may or may not transfer to the second owner, anyway). It might not be worth it to buy an expensive brand of fishing rod that is missing its label as that could be a sign that it is damaged and no longer as sensitive.

You’ll notice in online listings that these rods tend to have an unusual length. Whereas many rods come in 6’6″ or 6’8″ sizes, very few deliberately are 6’4″ or 6’7″. Double check what you’re buying and make sure that the rod is truly as advertised.

Always check for the label when buying fishing rods used.  It may still be worth it to buy an expensive fishing rod without one, but bear in mind the warranty has likely lapsed.
Do not accept any excuse for why this label is missing. It was likely removed at the factory due to catastrophic damage to the rod that will forever change its action. While there is certainly a market for these and inexpensive rods to be had, they will not perform as intended.

“B-Stock” Rods

While we’re on the topic of understanding exactly what you’re buying, you should realize that some manufacturers will sell so-called “B-Stock” rods at a steep discount. These are rods that were flagged during the manufacturing process as having some sort of blemish, or that were returned with very little use.

They aren’t going to carry the same warranty, which makes them more dangerous to purchase (and renders my method below useless), but as long as the seller identifies them as such, you don’t have to question their honesty.

Step 2: Research the Fishing Rod and Its Warranty

Physical blemishes and defects aren’t the only things you need to look for when buying a used fishing rod. You also need to consider issues such as how expensive the rod is new, and what kind of warranty it comes with.

If you don’t do this research, you might find yourself in a situation where you think you’re getting a great deal on an expensive brand of fishing rod, but you’re actually buying it for more than it’s worth.

New Cost – (Used Cost + Warranty Deductible + Shipping)

When I’m thinking about buying a used fishing rod on E-Bay, I’m trying to figure out if the used rod is truly worth it and safe to buy. You might see a rod listed for $50 less than new and think to yourself, “well, why wouldn’t it be worth it – I can save $50!!!”

OK… So what if the rod breaks instantly and the warranty deductible is $60? Still think it’s a good deal? Of course not.

The equation I use when purchasing a rod used is:

“New Cost – (Used Cost + Warranty Deductible + Shipping).

I use this method to make sure that I never pay more than a new rod would have cost me, even if the rod breaks on my first cast.

Research the “Actual” New Cost of the Fishing Rod

An important thing to look for when buying a used rod is what that same rod costs rod new. You’ll also want to understand if it ever goes on sale, and if so, for how much. Knowing this will allow you to put a number on the “actual” new cost of the rod. If you skip this step, you’ll never know if that “deal” you found on that expensive fishing rod is really worth clicking “Buy It Now.”

Some of the bigger fishing stores out there like Bass Pro Shops have their own branded products that they put on sale regularly. Generally speaking, they have a sale around most of the holidays and also a very big “Spring Fishing Classic” each year. You can often find their products heavily discounted, and their fishing rods and reels especially tend to be high quality.

If you’re looking at a rod from one of these shops, you need to get an idea of how much it might be discounted in the near future to understand what the “true” new cost is. It changes from year to year so honestly I’d just go to some fishing forums like www.ultimatebass.com, www.bassresource.com, or www.walleyecentral.com and ask around to see what deals different members have received.

If, on the other hand, you’re looking at a so-called “elite” fishing rods from a name brand, realize that they don’t usually go on sale at individual retail stores. Often, the manufacturers insist that the tackle shops out there sell their rods for a certain price and do not allow discounting.

If you want to buy these on sale, you generally need to sign up for the manufacturer newsletter and buy directly from them. Most often, the rods they offer for sale are either brand new models they want to get out there, or discontinued items that they still have lying around. This makes these sales very tough to predict and I wouldn’t bother waiting. Just consider the MSRP as the new cost.

Understand the Warranty in Detail

A well-made fishing rod can last a lifetime if reasonably cared for, which is one of the main reasons why its worth it to buy expensive fishing rods used. Thirty years later, I’m still using some rods I first cast as a child. All of those were second hand from my father.

Unfortunately, if you’re buying used, you’ll usually have little idea if the last owner abused it. This can be scary, especially if you’re looking at an expensive rod up for auction.

A rod’s warranty can remove the fear of purchasing it used if you understand what the warranty actually covers. Check the manufacturer’s website and look for the fine print on that used fishing rod model before you buy it. Here is the warranty information for St. Croix rods, which is my personal favorite brand.

You need to understand the fine print. Namely, will the warranty transfer to a second owner and what is the deductible for that second owner in case of damage? Further, who pays for the shipping? Is it included in the deductible fee or extra?

This is very important. Many manufacturers offer a much more robust warranty for original owners which obviously won’t help you when buying used. You need to read through the fine print and figure out exactly what you’re getting into.

You also need to understand if there is anything that second owner must do to transfer the warranty to their name. Some companies require registration on their website while others require nothing at all.

I’ve found that some companies reduce the warranty length for second owners. Whereas they might offer the original purchaser a lifetime warranty, a second owner may only get 10 years from the date of manufacture.

“Well, how on earth would I know this?” you ask? Look for a series of weird numbers on your rod. That is the serial number. If you call them or visit their website with that information, they should be able to tell you. Make sure you do this. You need to know if the warranty is still in effect or this entire process I’m teaching you is worthless.

Understand the “Actual” Used Cost

This is the easiest part of the whole equation – what is the seller asking for and how much do they want to ship the rod to you? Is the fishing rod worth buying at that price, or is it actually more expensive than if you bought it new?

I would submit that if you’re looking for the absolute best deal, you should consider if the price is negotiable, or (if purchasing through auction) if the “buy it now” price is actually better than what the rod will typically command after bidding. These will help you determine which one you should target.

Understand if shipping is a fixed cost, or based on your location. Try and get the seller to commit to a firm number agreed to in advance if possible, or even waive the shipping costs as part of the deal. Sometimes, it’s possible to meet someone and pick the rod up in person. Just make sure you stay safe while doing this, and meet in a well-lit public place.

Step 3: Do the Math and Make a Decision

Once you have your numbers, do some math. I promised you that I would use a “real world” example, and here it is. Again, I’m not using the manufacturer info because they could change their warranty conditions at any moment and I don’t want you to rely on outdated warranty information and find yourself underwater.

For the purposes of this study, let’s assume four things:

  1. You’re looking to buy a used rod from a seller you do not know;
  2. Unbeknownst to you, the rod was broken through negligence (i.e. not a manufacturer defect) and the seller is either unaware of this or trying to pull a fast one;
  3. You don’t have any guarantee that you’ll get your money back;
  4. You need this rod and will replace it if it breaks.

Bear in mind that the goal here is to avoid EVER buying a used fishing rod for more than it would have cost new.

Case Study #1
It wouldn't be worth it to buy this fishing rod used as it is too expensive when you break it down.

Here we have an online “buy it now” option for a high-end rod. As you can see, this is a terrible deal. At best, you’re only saving $9.99, yet you’re exposing yourself to $75.01 of risk. You should not purchase this used rod.

Case Study #2
Buying this high-quality fishing rod used would be a much better deal.

This is a much better deal. While you won’t break even, even if the rod was broken, you’re only out $4.12 over what the cost of a new rod would have been if you bought it new in the first place. I can stomach $4.12 of risk for the potential $80.88 savings.

If I was in the market for this rod, and it looked reasonably maintained from the photos, I would jump on this one and not lose a wink of sleep.

But How Should I Bid On a Used Fishing Rod?

You can use this same exact method to determine what your maximum bid should be when you’re trying to buy a used fishing rod. The only difference is you don’t worry about the asking/selling price, because you don’t know what that is yet. It will be whatever the top bidder is willing to pay.

Your job is to figure out what you’re willing to pay without exposing yourself to more risk than you can handle, should the experience go south.

Here’s an example from a current auction:

As you can see, if the bidding ended today, the buyer would get a phenomenal deal, but even if the cost increases, any price lower than $258.05 guarantees that in the absolute worst case scenario, you aren’t paying more for a used item than it costs new, and in fact, you might one day wind up with a new rod for a discount.

Closing Thoughts

I enjoy fishing tremendously and have bought several fishing rods over the years used with confidence by employing this method. I personally feel that it is worth it to buy expensive fishing rods, but only if the price is right. Because I know what to look for when buying a used fishing rod, I’ve been able to use this system to expand my arsenal with expensive, high quality fishing rods, all without breaking my budget.

It’s not rocket science but it is also not something that everyone thinks about, so I thought I’d write it to try and help someone out there. I’m clearly not getting any commission on an article that suggests you buy products used, so I hope you feel you can trust my advice!

If you enjoyed this article, consider purchasing my book, Fishing with Kids: A Parent’s Guide. In it, you will find numerous tips and tricks for teaching children to fish. If you are trying to get your kids (or yourself) into this sport, or know someone who is, it’s worth a read.

Thanks,

John Paxton